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New Type of Twins Discovered

Twins can be identical, fraternal and apparently semi-identical, scientists now report. Researchers discovered twins who are identical on their mom’s side of the equation but share only half their genes from dad. Here’s how it happened: Two sperm cells fertilized one egg—an event assumed to be very rare—then split into two embryos.

“Their similarity is somewhere between identical and fraternal twins,” said geneticist Vivienne Souter, of the Banner Good Samaritan Medical Center in Phoenix, Arizona. “It makes me wonder whether the current classification of twins is an oversimplification.”

The finding, detailed in the Journal of Human Genetics, was reported today by news@nature.com, the online site of the journal Nature.

Identical twins are created when one fertilized egg splits into two embryos. They share the same placenta and are always of the same sex. Fraternal twins result from two eggs being fertilized at the same time, each by a different sperm. Each has its own placenta, and they can be the same sex or not.

The semi-identical twins only came to the attention of Souter and her colleagues because one had ambiguous genitalia. The child was born a “true hermaphrodite” with both ovarian and testicular tissue. The other twin is a male, anatomically.

The twins are now toddlers, according to the report. They were conceived and born normally and appear to be mentally normal and are growing normally.

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My comments:  Ok, maybe I’m missing something, but how do parents not notice if their child’s genitalia is ambiguous? Or the pediatrician?



Comments:

  1. I thought a hermaphrodite was 2 seperate eggs that are fertilized (one male and one female) that fuse together during the embryo stage? I guess the other as described is a good theory since 2 different sperm fertilized one egg...and the sperm determines the sex of the baby. Maybe the male sperm fertilized the biggest portion of the egg while the female sperm.....ah hell if I know!
  2. Well that explains my friends. They were born Identical twins and they look nothing a like. One has blonde hair, one has brown, one is taller, one is chunky, the other is rail thin. I think I would notice if my baby was ambiguous. I hope I would. But that is still crazy no matter how you look at it.
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Csara View Post
    <u>My comments:</u> Ok, maybe I'm missing something, but how do parents not notice if their child's genitalia is ambiguous? Or the pediatrician?
    I didn't get that from the article? I assumed that the parents knew the child had ambiguous genitalia and told the geneticist? Otherwise, why would the researchers discover that on their own? My second thought is that perhaps the genitals mostly lookd like one sex or the other, and it wasn't really noticeable.

    Krysti, there are lots of causes of hermaphroditism (and they're not sure about them all), but it's often a hormonal thing - like the inability of a male's body (in the womb) to respond to testosterone - which results in the formation of some female organs.

    Shan, it doesn't sound to me like your twin friends are identical, but maybe this semi-identical thing might explain them. I would think it's way more likely that they are fraternal but were assumed to be identical because perhaps they shared a placenta (or the 2 placentas fused together and appeared to be one). That happens with some frequency.

    I wonder how common this new "semi-identical" category is (they did say "very rare") and how it would present itself in genetic test results. Many parents of twins test their children to see if they're frat or ident, and it sounds like this new category would fit into one of those categories, or else they would have discovered it earlier? So do semi-identicals present as genetically identical? Or fraternal, so people don't think much of the physical differences because they think the twins are fraternal anyway? And how much testing is required to discover that they're really only semi-identical?

    Whew! Lots to think about. Okay, turning my science brain off now.
  4. I agree with Jana - it sounds like the parents did know and that the geneticist got involved in the case since one twin is a hermaphrodite and the other one isn't. Even though they are toddlers now, I don't think that means that the fact one is a hermaphrodite was just now realized. Some ambiguous genitals are difficult to determine especially on infants. An infant that appears to be female could have what appears to be an enlarged clitoris that is actually a small penis and the testicals may not have descended. Or there may be ovaries instead of testicles. It definitely isn't always obvious to the parents.
  5. I wonder though, does it really matter if you categorize what kind of twins you have? I guess it's interesting enough, but I don't know that I would go to great lengths to figure it out. Maybe it helps if the twins have some common disease or disability.
  6. To me identical twins means same DNA and if it is coming from 2 different sperm then the DNA isn't going to be identical so its not really semi-identical it just seems like another type of fraternal.
  7. Quote:
    Originally Posted by B'sgirl View Post
    I wonder though, does it really matter if you categorize what kind of twins you have? I guess it's interesting enough, but I don't know that I would go to great lengths to figure it out. Maybe it helps if the twins have some common disease or disability.
    Yeah, I think in most cases it's just a curiosity thing, although there are probably medical reasons one might want to find out whether their twins are mono or di.
  8. Good point. And I guess it would be good to know because identical twins tend to run in the family and fraternal are often from fertility pills and that sort of thing.
  9. Actually, it's fraternal twins that run in the family, because what's actually hereditary is the release of more than one egg. Identical twins are the ones that are a mystery because they don't know what causes an egg to split.
  10. You're right, I was a bit mixed up.
  11. interesting stuff. yeah, I guess the parents must have known b/c that doesn't make sense that a geneticist would get involved in their story otherwise. d'oh
  12. Quote:
    Originally Posted by jana View Post
    Shan, it doesn't sound to me like your twin friends are identical, but maybe this semi-identical thing might explain them. I would think it's way more likely that they are fraternal but were assumed to be identical because perhaps they shared a placenta (or the 2 placentas fused together and appeared to be one). That happens with some frequency.
    They shared the same sac of fluid, they even had to come early because they had a knot in their umbilical cords. Kendra and Kari's mom still had them test and they were Identical. It was really weird you couldn't tell them apart till they were like six Kendra's hair started turning to brown. Then Kari got taller. Soon they looked nothing a like. Aww the mysteries of science.
  13. Yeah, that's so interesting!!!!
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